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Intro to the Guest and Topic: Matt Ingold, Founder of Metanoia Catholic
Core Takeaway
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Today’s Topic & Guest:
Matthew Ingold | Metanoia Catholic
Alright folks, welcome back to another episode of the Catholic Founders Podcast. Today, we are bringing you a powerful conversation recorded live at the YCP conference in Dallas with the one and only Matt Ingold, co-founder of Metanoia Catholic.
They have been building for 7 years and have evolved into a premier coach training academy that helps form executive and life coaches who integrate the Catholic faith into human development and personal growth.
We discuss:
How founders can reclaim the entrepreneurial space from modern hustle culture.
How looking closely at our daily biz ops can help us with our interior diologue with the Father.
What it’s like to run a business with your wife.
How to see God’s hand in the ups, and the downs, of running a business.
And much more.
Regardless of what type of biz owner you are, and how far along you are on your journey, I think you’re going to like this.
Core Lesson:
Your business serves as an architectural space for your personal sanctification and a visible manifestation of the unique, unrepeatable dialogue you share with the Father.
Running your company IS your ministry. It’s God’s way of bringing others to Him through you, and bringing you to Him through the work.
The challenges of running a business are many. For Catholics, it has a new meaning though, because we know there is more to life than pursuit of money and status. We know that the only thing we can take with us when we die are the other souls that we bring along.
As entrepreneuers, we get the opportunity to affect and touch the lives of many many people in a meaningful way throughout our life. This is our mission field. Mission is the point. Bringing others to know God is the point.
When this clicks, your business is no longer about the specific mission you solve or making oodles of money, as much as it is a mission to bring more ppl to know God.
Perhaps the most fascinating thing that comes from this is, that God uses this experience to help us be sanctified. The daily challenges, the way He teaches us about ourselves, and about His providence and love; it all contributes to bringing us closer to Him… if we allow it.
So, next time you’re thinking about your business challenges, or planning the future, or wanting to complain, realize that this is your mission field. Through answering the call to enter into the mission field willingly, you’ll bring more people to know God, and you will come to closer to God, and eternal life.
God Bless & Happy Building!
~Silas Mähner
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Key Episode References:
Organizations & Websites
Books & Literary Works
Assessments
Saints, Devotions, & Scripture
People
Select Quotes:
“Something happens when you enter an environment where you got a lot of Catholics that have a similar heart, especially in the business world. I mean, that's where my heart's at. I love business and I love my faith. So getting to share that, it invites me to kind of be better.” - Matt Ingold
“Fulton Sheen would put it, what the church puts down, the secular world picks up.” - Matt Ingold
“But then as entrepreneurs, we've got our business, but the business isn't our identity. It's like what we're called to do inside the business because God doesn't care if our business makes money or doesn't, right? That's not what he cares about. What he cares about is leading us closer to him through that.” - Silas Mähner
“That's why I like coaching. It actually creates a space for somebody to pause and reflect. And suddenly those breadcrumbs that God has been leaving behind all this time, we start to see the path lighting up and his will starts to really focus and sharpen.” - Matt Ingold
“I think everybody should have a season where they're working with somebody and the person is really guiding them through some intentional self reflection.” - Matt Ingold
And that's like the unique mission, the unique identity that you bring into your married vocation. And when you're living that authentically, it elevates the way that you experience the married vocation.” - Matt Ingold
“You can't give what you don't have. You certainly can't witness a relationship which is the Christian called, our telos, our end is to be in union, a relationship with God, Father, Son, Holy Spirit, for all eternity, right?” - Matt Ingold
“And so those very words, if those words that we're using are aligned with the truth of who we are, and that's the foundation of the relationship, it transforms or it elevates the relationship, because God's word always elevates, which elevates and reveals a sense of who we are and sends us on mission.” - Matt Ingold
“But when we started to realize that no, we just had complimentary gifts and we started to make space for the gift of the other to come forward and be humble and receive, that changed everything.” - Matt Ingold
“you discover who you are, your identity and relationship, and then your identity reveals your mission. So you have relationship, identity, mission, right? Well, the foundation of a relationship is a dialogue, two people that are conversing, communicating with one another.” - Matt Ingold
“if you are going through life without any self-reflection because you're too distracted by the world, you are missing out on the second and third dimensions of your own existence because God created us to share in that love, right?” - Silas Mähner
“I like to look at business as another manifestation of the work that the Holy Spirit is doing with you that’s just made in a way that can be consumed and shared with other, and experienced by other people.” - Matt Ingold
“This is the business doing the sanctifying work on me. This is a feature, not a bug of business. If it’s really from the Lord, it will sanctify me. It will sanctify the owners. And that’s a good thing.” - Matt Ingold
Key Moments: (outline)
[01:16] - Podcast Introduction and Mission : Host Silas Mähner introduces the show’s mission to help Catholic entrepreneurs achieve sainthood through their co-creative business journeys.
[02:19] - Welcome and Conference Vibe : Silas welcomes Matt at the YCP (Young Catholic Professionals) conference in Dallas, highlighting the powerful energy of faith-driven business leaders.
[03:30] - Introducing Metanoia Catholic : Matt gives an overview of Metanoia Catholic, explaining their evolution into an academy that trains and certifies Catholic life and executive coaches.
[04:05] - The Origin of Metanoia : Matt shares how experiencing burnout while working in ministry led him and his wife to coaching, inspiring them to build a personal development framework aligned with Catholic anthropology.
[06:18] - Reclaiming the Business World : Silas and Matt discuss the need for Catholics to reclaim leadership in standard business fields rather than abdicating them to secular humanistic ideologies.
[08:08] - Deepening Identity and Temperaments : Matt describes identity through personal relationships and temperaments, explaining how his structured choleric nature balances his wife’s charismatic style.
[10:54] - God’s Breadcrumbs in Entrepreneurship : Matt emphasizes the power of coaching and self-reflection to help entrepreneurs spot the “breadcrumbs” God leaves to clarify their path.
[12:42] - The Impact of Having a Coach : Matt reveals his favorite part of his own story—investing heavily in a coach to gain self-awareness through tools like StrengthsFinder.
[14:45] - Running a Business with Your Spouse : Matt shares practical insights on working with a spouse, highlighting the humility required to receive each other’s complementary gifts and set healthy boundaries.
[18:45] - The Vocation Within a Vocation : Matt defines a business as a “call within a call” that should elevate a marriage rather than compete with it, serving as a litmus test for spiritual alignment.
[20:42] - Practical Tools for Relationships : Matt recommends using profile assessments to depersonalize irritations and recognize the unique lens through which a business partner sees the world.
[23:20] - Ministry as a Spiritual Overflow : Drawing from Soul of the Apostolate, Matt notes that any outward ministry or business must overflow from a deep, honest relationship with the Father.
[25:24] - The Ingredients of a Unique Calling : Silas and Matt discuss how God curates a person’s geography, parents, and early experiences as custom “talents” to steward.
[28:39] - Self-Reflection and the Trinity : Silas maps self-reflection to the relational nature of the Trinity, stressing that quiet reflection keeps business owners from getting lost in worldly distractions.
[33:27] - The New Frontier of Evangelization : Matt points out that the workplace engages people for 40 hours a week compared to a short Sunday Mass, making Catholic business leadership a primary engine for formation.
[35:24] - Isaac vs. Ishmael in Business : Matt warns against forcing secular growth strategies out of fear, urging business owners to let God lead the vision rather than trying to manufacture control.
[37:57] - A $40,000 Mistake and a Shift in Strategy : Matt shares a past failure with a high-end live event and contrasts it with his current shift toward growing organically through “persons of peace”.
[44:02] - How to Get Started as a Catholic Coach : Matt breaks down the “beyond healing” focus of positive psychology in coaching and what to look for in a certification program.
[46:19] - Overcoming the Fee Dilemma : Matt addresses the mental barrier of charging money for faith-adjacent services, emphasizing that “people who pay, pay attention”.
[48:50] - Rapid-Fire Questions : Matt shares his favorite scripture (Ezekiel 37), favorite entrepreneur (Alex Hormozi), favorite saint (John Vianney), and his current favorite spiritual book.
[51:06] - Finding Metanoia Catholic : Matt directs listeners to Catholiccoaching.com to browse their certified coach directory.
[51:56] - Podcast Outro and Call to Action : Silas closes the episode by asking listeners for reviews to boost discoverability, leaving them with his sign-off reminder: “You were created to create.”
Hire Catholic Overseas Talent
In LatAm and the Philippines, there are millions of Catholic remote workers (across all domains) who want to work for ethical bosses.
Often, they’re treated as second-class citizens or work for organizations that ask them to do questionable things. They reach out to us in search of a Catholic boss.
So, we started ParacleteVA (website coming soon).
With ParacleteVA, we’ll find you vetted, Catholic overseas talent who will help you move your business forward.
How it works: Pay a $500 finders fee when the candidate starts, and $500 if you’re still happy with them after 30 days.
To get started, reach out to catholicfounders@gmail.com with what you’re looking for, and we’ll get started.
