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#28 Rerum Novarum in 2025: Applying it to Your Business | Travis Callaway

Podcast: Wages, Workers' Rights, Unions, AI, ROI, and much More

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Don’t forget - tomorrow is the feast of The Assumption — a Holy Day of Obligation in the US. Make your plan for mass — and better yet, take the day off if you can. Whatever you do, be sure to honor our Lady.

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  • Intro to the Guest and Topic

  • Core Takeaway

  • Episode References

  • Select Quotes

  • Key Moments

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Today’s Topic & Guest:

Core Lesson:

You Pick. And Share.

Today’s episode has a LOT of points in it. My goal is for you to pick your favorite takeaway (probably something you’re going to focus on with your business) and share it in the comments of this post.

This way, others can learn from what you noticed, and we can all find at least one way to apply this Catholic Social Teaching to our businesses.

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Key Episode References:

Select Quotes:

  • "Legality and morality are not the same thing. And this document does a good job of articulating that." (10:41)

  • "Rerum Novarum also points to what the socialists were identifying, which is, this struggle between classes is a real problem. And we can solve that problem if we root ourselves in human dignity." (20:06)

  • "Doing the bare minimum, just so you can meet the legal threshold, certainly doesn't seem to qualify as what's required from the perspective of a just wage." (34:52)

  • "What you have is not meant for you, right? He didn't give us the skills to... for us to provide for ourselves. He gave us these skills to become instruments of his will in the world." (40:50)

  • "Work is a good thing. And we shouldn't be trying to get the robots to do it all for us." (48:43)

Key Moments: (outline)

  • 0:00 Introduction to the Catholic Founders Podcast

  • 1:42 Guest Introduction: Travis Callaway

  • 3:37 Background of Rerum Novarum and its relevance

  • 7:11 Core points of Rerum Novarum

    • 8:43 Duties of employers to employees

    • 13:36 Short-term versus long-term thinking in business

    • 19:39 Harmony between classes

    • 21:50 Importance of associations (unions)

    • 24:02 Christian charity and eternal life

  • 26:47 Applying Rerum Novarum in 2025: Human dignity in the workplace

    • 29:33 Ensuring good working conditions

    • 33:46 The concept of a just wage

    • 38:53 Social responsibility of wealth

    • 43:03 Limits on state intervention

    • 44:18 Harmony over conflict

  • 47:04 Catholic perspective on universal basic income and work

  • 51:18 Rapid fire questions: Favorite scripture, entrepreneur, saint, and devotion


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