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#32 Don't Run From Suffering. God Teaches You Through It | Lucas Wall

Podcast: Building Through Tragedy, Minting 1 Million AI Millionaires

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Hey everyone! Welcome back to another episode of Catholic Founders!

Today, we’ve got another episode mostly focused on AI and how to engage with your spouse as an entrepreneur. But Lucas has an incredible history of entrepreneurship and brought a lot of value to the discussion of being a Catholic entrepreneur.

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In today’s post:

  • Intro to the Guest and Topic

  • Core Takeaway

  • Episode References

  • Select Quotes

  • Key Moments

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Core Lesson:

You cannot Run From Pain — Going Through Pain is the Only Way to understand God’s Grace for you from that Pain

Lucas lost his son at a young age. This, after having endured a lot of sacrifice in his move from Argentina to the US. This, plus his experience enduring the pains of entrepreneurship—including shutting down a company because of Covid—makes Lucas a great person to learn from on the topic.

I gained a lot from this discussion with him. His story really moved me in a deep way. I hope you listen thoroughly to the entire episode to reap the same benefit.

God Bless & Happy Building!

~Silas Mähner

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Key Episode References:

  • The Bible:

    • Book of Job

    • Genesis

    • St. Paul's Epistles/Works

Select Quotes:

  • "AI is so big, so transformational that it's going to give us a chance. We still have a chance in front of us. So let's ride the wave together." — Lucas

  • "The moment we allow machines to take our dignity, is when we lost the entire discussion." — Lucas

  • "If a machine can replicate your thinking, maybe your thinking needs upgrade." — Lucas

  • "You cannot run from your pain. You cannot run from your sadness. You have to go through the experience to understand the grace of God." — Lucas

  • "Timing is the number one thing that we entrepreneurs cannot move forward. We cannot speed up time. We cannot slow down time." — Lucas

  • "Share your gifts. Become an entrepreneur to share your gifts and learn with the community. We belong to communities. We're not islands. give yourself a try." — Lucas

Key Moments: (outline)

  • 00:00 Engaging with your spouse about business stress

  • 00:26 Introduction to Catholic Founders podcast and Lucas Wall

  • 02:25 Lucas Wall's introduction and background

  • 03:31 Explanation of Alumm.ai and its mission

  • 04:47 How Alumm.ai aims to democratize wealth in the AI revolution

  • 06:24 Illustrative example of an AI agent

  • 08:18 AI as a change of eras and its distribution, unlike past technologies

  • 10:39 Exaggeration of AI's benefits and drawbacks

  • 13:13 AI and the questioning of human value/thinking

  • 16:21 Human dignity and AI from a Catholic perspective

  • 19:51 Benefits of technology in revealing truth for the Church

  • 22:35 Role of Catholic entrepreneurs in the AI era

  • 26:01 Importance of human dignity over ROI and AI's role in small businesses

  • 31:07 Catholic Founders Guild advertisement

  • 31:59 Using AI to resolve disagreements and build connections

  • 33:45 Spouse as the first business partner

  • 36:27 Tips on engaging your spouse as an entrepreneur

  • 39:04 Managing expectations and stress with your spouse

  • 40:00 De-risking a startup and involving your spouse

  • 43:23 Minimizing risk in entrepreneurship

  • 48:42 The option to pause a company instead of shutting down

  • 49:53 Importance of timing in entrepreneurship

  • Rapid Fire:

    • 50:43 Favorite scripture/holy reading: St. Paul

    • 54:08 Favorite entrepreneur: Elon Musk, and a discussion on suffering

    • 59:20 Favorite saint: St. Paul and a personal relationship with God

    • 1:00:58 Favorite devotion: Hail Mary and Mother Mary's protection

  • 1:01:52 Call to action: share your gifts and become an entrepreneur


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